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Yes hopefully we'll get a fiercely run race on decent ground (Good-soft is perfect) and end up with KS and Denman pulling, say, 5 or 6 clear of ED and another 7 or 8 clear of the rest. Perfectly feasible IMO and then we're into BIG rating territory. Let's hope they all get there. Very exciting prospect.
especially if one of the Irish comeback horses [or both?] is upsides over the last... then we'll see who the biggest battler is...... _________________ Geordie_R
"A should of known there mum was buying banana's"
Why does everyone think that Exotic Dancer has no chance? Its absolutely ridiculous. The same people who were complaining we were writing off Katchit are now writing off a horse who has much better credentials.
Off all the leading contenders in the race the one who would suit a fast pace the most would be Exotic Dancer, we know he likes Cheltenham and I would honestly say he was an unlucky loser last year. Im not saying he would of won but he would of been a lot closer had the race fell into place for him and maybe McCoy gave KS first run which im pretty sure he wont do again.
Also he almost got past Kauto Star at Haydock last time and I think there's a big chance that if that race was over the Gold Cup trip then Exotic Dancer probably would of won. Of course its all guess work and nothing will be proved until the day but its ridiculous to write off his chances.
i wouldnt write him off as he could produce his lifetime best - and he has never been slaughtered by kauto
the pace is an interesting one; last years gold cup was run very slowly at first; that must have helped kauto
would denman and say sir rembrandt, tanking off in front, take the sting out of kauto but help ED?
Its an interesting point... and will Kicking Kingand /or war of attirition be in there battling? _________________ Geordie_R
"A should of known there mum was buying banana's"
Why does everyone think that Exotic Dancer has no chance? Its absolutely ridiculous. The same people who were complaining we were writing off Katchit are now writing off a horse who has much better credentials.
Off all the leading contenders in the race the one who would suit a fast pace the most would be Exotic Dancer, we know he likes Cheltenham and I would honestly say he was an unlucky loser last year. Im not saying he would of won but he would of been a lot closer had the race fell into place for him and maybe McCoy gave KS first run which im pretty sure he wont do again.
Also he almost got past Kauto Star at Haydock last time and I think there's a big chance that if that race was over the Gold Cup trip then Exotic Dancer probably would of won. Of course its all guess work and nothing will be proved until the day but its ridiculous to write off his chances.
He was never getting past IMO and I think the race worked out better for ED as KS saw too much daylight the whole way and was in front for a long time and ED was flattered IMO. I just don't think ED has the scope to run a much bigger rating than he already has whereas i think KS can, so if he's not beaten him yet i don't think he ever will.
I wrote off Katchit's chance in the FF and i was right and now you're right i am writing off ED's chance in the Gold Cup and i expect to be right again! We shall see though: it's all about opinions! I just happen to have a better opinion than yours
Why does everyone think that Exotic Dancer has no chance? Its absolutely ridiculous. The same people who were complaining we were writing off Katchit are now writing off a horse who has much better credentials.
Off all the leading contenders in the race the one who would suit a fast pace the most would be Exotic Dancer, we know he likes Cheltenham and I would honestly say he was an unlucky loser last year. Im not saying he would of won but he would of been a lot closer had the race fell into place for him and maybe McCoy gave KS first run which im pretty sure he wont do again.
Also he almost got past Kauto Star at Haydock last time and I think there's a big chance that if that race was over the Gold Cup trip then Exotic Dancer probably would of won. Of course its all guess work and nothing will be proved until the day but its ridiculous to write off his chances.
He was never getting past IMO and I think the race worked out better for ED as KS saw too much daylight the whole way and was in front for a long time and ED was flattered IMO. I just don't think ED has the scope to run a much bigger rating than he already has whereas i think KS can, so if he's not beaten him yet i don't think he ever will.
I wrote off Katchit's chance in the FF and i was right and now you're right i am writing off ED's chance in the Gold Cup and i expect to be right again! We shall see though: it's all about opinions! I just happen to have a better opinion than yours
Owl
He has raced KS three times, the first time he was beating 8l, the second time it was 2 1/2 lenghts, the next time half a length. I know its silly to say that next time he should beat him, but i think there's every chance he could definitely beat him at one point in his career if not more.
As ive already stated a faster run race always suits the horses that come from right off the pace and in the gold cup Denman is going to be out front tanking along, Kauto Star will be in midfield and Exotic Dancer will be coming from the back of the pack.
As we all know your opinion counts for nothing and I will be right come March. I am going to find the ugliest bloke on google and I will be using that for your picture in the Shamrdal vs Owl poster I on the other hand will be Brad Pitt.
[quote="shamardal84 I am going to find the ugliest bloke on google and I will be using that for your picture in the Shamrdal vs Owl poster I on the other hand will be Brad Pitt.[/quote]
i think you'll find Ihave protected my image rights _________________ Geordie_R
"A should of known there mum was buying banana's"
I am going to find the ugliest bloke on google and I will be using that for your picture in the Shamrdal vs Owl poster I on the other hand will be Brad Pitt.
geordie_racer wrote:
i think you'll find Ihave protected my image rights
What you talking about mate, ive seen your pictures scattered all over the internet?
At last a proper gold cup is on then cards. I'll be so peeved if one of them or more gets injured and doesnt turn up. Otherwise i cant bloody wait!!!
DD.
Heh heh - I know! And there surely must be something Irish waiting in the wings?
Speaking of which - do you know what's happened to Calin Ailann?
Hi Rowan,
Not sure what happened to her - as dom said she had a run at galway i think on the flat and was a bit disappointing.
The only irish one i have backed for the GC is Schlinders hunt at 250's!!!!
Denman will be fav come the day........
DD
Ah, I've found it now - I was sure I'd seen a headline. Unfortunately she's injured:
Cailin Alainn is likely to be out of action for around three months after suffering an overreach when running at Galway last month.
The talented mare sustained the injury when she finished unplaced behind Larkwing after being sent off the 9-4 favourite in a Flat race over a mile and three-quarters.
'Hopefully she'll back next February,' said trainer Charles Byrnes.
'She gave herself an overreach. It's coming good now, but it will be mid-February or March time before we can run her.'
Just read the thread in its entirety, what a fascinating read.
I thought Denman was fantastic and a joy to watch at the weekend. I think the bookies are overreacting with making him joint favourite and the odds are too short on a horse than is unproven in the top class.
I think Kauto is still the one to beat, basically I still think if he gets round he wins.
Not taking anything away from Denman though.
Jet........... _________________ "there is no way anything is going to Katchit"
Firstly I am sure Nicholls will just give both horses every chance to win - not favouring either. Ruby will almost certainly ride Kauto Star - if he gave him up for Denman and KS won...
As for the Irish trained horses it very difficult to believe there is anything capable of being placed let alone throwing down a serious challenge. We are looking at ED and Denman rated at 180+ and KS at 182+. Kicking King peaked at 177 and War of Attrition at 173 - both would do well to return to that level this year. As for the younger brigade they have huge amounts to improve.
I love Harry Finlay - great quotes. You can guarantee he will put his money where his mouth is come the day too. There is no value for me in the front two now - that market is dead. We need to try and find something with the scope to rate 178+ and find a place bet somewhere. I still like MWDS and he has the potential to rate in the high 170's - I have him as one of the best Arkle winners in modern times. Even then though there are three horses rated 180+ plus so you need something to go your way... _________________ One way to stop a runaway horse is to bet on him.
We bumped into Harry at Newbury and I said good luck with Denman, he turned round and said thanks lads, do you have tickets? Do you want some? The guy I was with said we have tickets!! I was hoping to get the inside gen.. oh well
But I agree he is such a kind hearted proper geezer.
three out wrote:
Another cracking thread.
Firstly I am sure Nicholls will just give both horses every chance to win - not favouring either. Ruby will almost certainly ride Kauto Star - if he gave him up for Denman and KS won...
As for the Irish trained horses it very difficult to believe there is anything capable of being placed let alone throwing down a serious challenge. We are looking at ED and Denman rated at 180+ and KS at 182+. Kicking King peaked at 177 and War of Attrition at 173 - both would do well to return to that level this year. As for the younger brigade they have huge amounts to improve.
I love Harry Finlay - great quotes. You can guarantee he will put his money where his mouth is come the day too. There is no value for me in the front two now - that market is dead. We need to try and find something with the scope to rate 178+ and find a place bet somewhere. I still like MWDS and he has the potential to rate in the high 170's - I have him as one of the best Arkle winners in modern times. Even then though there are three horses rated 180+ plus so you need something to go your way...
Why does everyone think that Exotic Dancer has no chance? Its absolutely ridiculous. The same people who were complaining we were writing off Katchit are now writing off a horse who has much better credentials.
Watch it on SKANKYS PPV
Team EXOTIC DANCER VS Team THE FIELD
Coming soon to a TV near you
Plus the B Movie with Team Katchit vs all the usual suspects.
We bumped into Harry at Newbury and I said good luck with Denman, he turned round and said thanks lads, do you have tickets? Do you want some? The guy I was with said we have tickets!! I was hoping to get the inside gen.. oh well
But I agree he is such a kind hearted proper geezer.
three out wrote:
Another cracking thread.
Firstly I am sure Nicholls will just give both horses every chance to win - not favouring either. Ruby will almost certainly ride Kauto Star - if he gave him up for Denman and KS won...
As for the Irish trained horses it very difficult to believe there is anything capable of being placed let alone throwing down a serious challenge. We are looking at ED and Denman rated at 180+ and KS at 182+. Kicking King peaked at 177 and War of Attrition at 173 - both would do well to return to that level this year. As for the younger brigade they have huge amounts to improve.
I love Harry Finlay - great quotes. You can guarantee he will put his money where his mouth is come the day too. There is no value for me in the front two now - that market is dead. We need to try and find something with the scope to rate 178+ and find a place bet somewhere. I still like MWDS and he has the potential to rate in the high 170's - I have him as one of the best Arkle winners in modern times. Even then though there are three horses rated 180+ plus so you need something to go your way...
David - another great thing is he is 100% genuine. He openly said he couldn't back Ouninpohja so you know exactly where you are as a punter when he speaks. _________________ One way to stop a runaway horse is to bet on him.
David i agree Harry is a gent and he does so much for his first love, Greyhound Racing. As WMH pointed out he sponsored a horse race supporting retired greyhounds at the weekend
He loves his greyhounds, and it was a brilliant way of trying to get ex racing greyhounds to the forefront of peoples minds. I can vouch for them, I had an ex racer and he had a lovely nature.
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I on the other hand will be Brad Pitt.
