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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The fly in the ointment!

"If he runs well there, I'll be pushing to come back to Cheltenham for the World Hurdle," said King."


I've been saying for weeks and weeks that this would happen...

When a group of us were putting together our team 10TF, they were all flagging him for the Gold Cup, but I said it would be the Ryanair or the World Hurdle...

What this makes me wonder, though - does that mean they think he couldn't beat Voy Por Ustedes?
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 3:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it's a bad idea to run in the World Hurdle. It's not that he is a bad chaser - look at his Arkle win! If he comes back to form over hurdles before Cheltenham then i see no reason why he won;t be back in form over fences.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is it worth anything else turning up?

You might as well hand the trophy over to the connections of Inglis Drever now after Satursday's performance!
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have just seen that i backed Hardy Eustace @ 9.2 on 22nd December at 2.13am i do not have any memory of this at all what was i doing!
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I have just seen that i backed Hardy Eustace @ 9.2 on 22nd December at 2.13am i do not have any memory of this at all what was i doing!


Are you sure you hadn't left an unmatched bet from sometime previously?  Maybe it just got matched then.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nope as i have never thought of him going for the world hurdle. I think i had been out all day and did something very stupid!
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 11:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seriously considering laying Inglis Drever now at 6/4 and putting up a bet @ 5s in running.The way he runs surely some punter will lay that when he comes off the bridle with a mile to go.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 11:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

harchiefan wrote:
Seriously considering laying Inglis Drever now at 6/4 and putting up a bet @ 5s in running.The way he runs surely some punter will lay that when he comes off the bridle with a mile to go.

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I think he'll go shorter than 6/4 if you wait until closer to the time !!! But it's a good tactic, I wouldn't like to guess what he'll go out to in-running though, but a lot larger than his current price I'm sure !!!
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 11:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Seriously considering laying Inglis Drever now at 6/4 and putting up a bet @ 5s in running.The way he runs surely some punter will lay that when he comes off the bridle with a mile to go.

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I agree. Good idea. Laying him now means you also have the chance of winning the lay if he fails to line up.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 11:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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harchiefan wrote:
Seriously considering laying Inglis Drever now at 6/4 and putting up a bet @ 5s in running.The way he runs surely some punter will lay that when he comes off the bridle with a mile to go.

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I agree. Good idea. Laying him now means you also have the chance of winning the lay if he fails to line up.


Sort of depends whether you think he'll win or not.  Are you laying to cover the win bet, or placing the win to cover the pay plus make a profit??

If you think he'll win, then just back him part way though the race.  Also depends on the stakes your thinking of, as I can't see there being too much available @ 5's - as most punters know how ID will run the race.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 11:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

harchiefan wrote:
Seriously considering laying Inglis Drever now at 6/4 and putting up a bet @ 5s in running.The way he runs surely some punter will lay that when he comes off the bridle with a mile to go.

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But if no one does lay you the 5's, you've laid one of the bankers of the Festival! I also agree with Sky that surely any punter who knows how to lay horses will know Inglis's style of running.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 11:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sky_Of_Darkness wrote:
Owl of Minerva wrote:
harchiefan wrote:
Seriously considering laying Inglis Drever now at 6/4 and putting up a bet @ 5s in running.The way he runs surely some punter will lay that when he comes off the bridle with a mile to go.

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I agree. Good idea. Laying him now means you also have the chance of winning the lay if he fails to line up.


Sort of depends whether you think he'll win or not.  Are you laying to cover the win bet, or placing the win to cover the pay plus make a profit??

If you think he'll win, then just back him part way though the race.  Also depends on the stakes your thinking of, as I can't see there being too much available @ 5's - as most punters know how ID will run the race.


You'd be surprised Sky.ID traded above 5s during the Cleeve and i see it time and time again with my beloved Harchibald who traded about 1.15 at Kempton at xmas.You would think people would know what these horses are like but it seems some dont.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 11:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

harchiefan wrote:
Sky_Of_Darkness wrote:
Owl of Minerva wrote:
harchiefan wrote:
Seriously considering laying Inglis Drever now at 6/4 and putting up a bet @ 5s in running.The way he runs surely some punter will lay that when he comes off the bridle with a mile to go.

Views anyone.


I agree. Good idea. Laying him now means you also have the chance of winning the lay if he fails to line up.


Sort of depends whether you think he'll win or not.  Are you laying to cover the win bet, or placing the win to cover the pay plus make a profit??

If you think he'll win, then just back him part way though the race.  Also depends on the stakes your thinking of, as I can't see there being too much available @ 5's - as most punters know how ID will run the race.


You'd be surprised Sky.ID traded above 5s during the Cleeve and i see it time and time again with my beloved Harchibald who traded about 1.15 at Kempton at xmas.You would think people would know what these horses are like but it seems some dont.


And in the cleeve he never even looked in 'real' trouble. . . . . .
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 11:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

harchiefan wrote:
Sky_Of_Darkness wrote:
Owl of Minerva wrote:
harchiefan wrote:
Seriously considering laying Inglis Drever now at 6/4 and putting up a bet @ 5s in running.The way he runs surely some punter will lay that when he comes off the bridle with a mile to go.

Views anyone.


I agree. Good idea. Laying him now means you also have the chance of winning the lay if he fails to line up.


Sort of depends whether you think he'll win or not.  Are you laying to cover the win bet, or placing the win to cover the pay plus make a profit??

If you think he'll win, then just back him part way though the race.  Also depends on the stakes your thinking of, as I can't see there being too much available @ 5's - as most punters know how ID will run the race.


You'd be surprised Sky.ID traded above 5s during the Cleeve and i see it time and time again with my beloved Harchibald who traded about 1.15 at Kempton at xmas.You would think people would know what these horses are like but it seems some dont.


As I said, it depends on which way round you are looking to make the profit and by how much.  If you think he'll win, then I'd just back him at a bigger price during the race.  I'd really only do what you're suggesting if I thought the horse wouldn't win and would then 'back' him bigger to cover my lay bet.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 11:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For me the whole point of 'trading' is that it doesn't matter whether you think the horse will win or not. You only need worry about getting an all green screen and i think this tactic is a good way of achieiving this


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