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value seeker

Sunday 28th Feb 2010

A few weeks ago I wrote about the danger of backing favs at Towcester as the Northamptonshire track had a dire record for fav backers ,the worst in the whole country.
The seven races that day produced just one winning fav at 11/10 which meant a big profit for the layers.
So once again tread carefully at this track tommorrow if racing goes ahead ,there is a 8.00 am inspection.
Also remember that in the last 63 bumpers just 11 favs have won at the track ,in fact between the middle of Nov 2006 and the middle of Nov the track went two years without a bumper winner.
The corses character has to some peoples opinion made it a graveyard for favs which feature a gruelling climb to the line that starts in the back straight ,a unique test that means form from other tracks dosent always transfer well to Towester.
Also horseswith no  course experience have trouble there which could mean why so many bumper favs dip.
If you dont lay the favs be carefull taking too many short prices on horses running there but remember that can leave you with scope of getting a big price winner to swell your Cheltenham bank.
Finally have a pop at the placepot the last Sunday placepot give a chunky dividend of £574.30
SkankyMinga

Re: Sunday 28th Feb 2010

value seeker wrote:
in fact between the middle of Nov 2006 and the middle of Nov the track went two years without a bumper winner.


Its unusual for runners in flat races to fall but every single runner in a bumper over 2 years!! I'm surprised the course has not been closed.  
johne5knuckle

Re: Sunday 28th Feb 2010

SkankyMinga wrote:
value seeker wrote:
in fact between the middle of Nov 2006 and the middle of Nov the track went two years without a bumper winner.


Its unusual for runners in flat races to fall but every single runner in a bumper over 2 years!! I'm surprised the course has not been closed.  
Not to mention the fact it was three years...
lochsong

Re: Sunday 28th Feb 2010

value seeker wrote:
A few weeks ago I wrote about the danger of backing favs at Towcester as the Northamptonshire track had a dire record for fav backers ,the worst in the whole country.
The seven races that day produced just one winning fav at 11/10 which meant a big profit for the layers.
So once again tread carefully at this track tommorrow if racing goes ahead ,there is a 8.00 am inspection.
Also remember that in the last 63 bumpers just 11 favs have won at the track ,in fact between the middle of Nov 2006 and the middle of Nov the track went two years without a bumper winner.
The corses character has to some peoples opinion made it a graveyard for favs which feature a gruelling climb to the line that starts in the back straight ,a unique test that means form from other tracks dosent always transfer well to Towester.
Also horseswith no  course experience have trouble there which could mean why so many bumper favs dip.
If you dont lay the favs be carefull taking too many short prices on horses running there but remember that can leave you with scope of getting a big price winner to swell your Cheltenham bank.
Finally have a pop at the placepot the last Sunday placepot give a chunky dividend of £574.30


Gotcha!  
FallonFacta

Sunday Racing can be confusing!  
lochsong

I'm on Cloud Nine in the 3.10.
Rowan

FallonFacta wrote:
Sunday Racing can be confusing!  


Well, Towcester is off which will cut down on the muddle
jennywales

Holly Walk in the hunter at Fontwell (trying to top up my Betfair account after splurging on Chesnut Annie for the Foxhunters!)
jennywales

FallonFacta wrote:
Sunday Racing can be confusing!  


What do you mean, Sunday racing? I am confused all the time....    
alansouthcoast

I am really keen on Lough Derg at Fontwell today. He has won the 3.35 for the last two years and wont mind the heavy going. It is raining hard as I type, and I am less than ten miles from the track. Anything you back at Fontwell will need to handle very testing conditions.
YAIYAM

The 2:15 @ Leop is going to be a tough one to crack today as there are lots of the runners where the form is tide in pretty tight with each others and it is hard to seperate them.
The difference in the times betweent the MCR(pierse) hurdle and the race Moville won was minimal especially as the MCR was quicker earlier on.
The only horse that might have a slight edge over the other runners in these 2 fields to me is Total Exitement as he was coming back from a break so hopefully his run will give him somthing to help him.
He is also twice the price of the other horses from those races bar Takestan 25/1 is also probably not totally out of it on his best but does not seem to have a decent reason to turn over the ones at the head of the market like Total Exitement does.
Alpine Eagle could be the other one with a big chance as he finished 7th in the 2009 Pierse Hurdle with not much experiance, has obviously had his problems but his run back against Won In The Dark was pretty good for a horse running off his rating in a handicap like this.

TE 2 Points E/W @ 14/1
AE 3 Points E/W @ 8/1
theGoingStick

Won In The Dark for me here.
YAIYAM

theGoingStick wrote:
Won In The Dark for me here.


Everything points to it but I just have that feeling one will beat him today.
Not a betting price anyway
newyorktony

2-15 leo  i agree with yaiyam that alpine eagle will go close but i fancy the other harrington runner in colleoni to go well i have took the 16-1 and also slievecorragh 20-1 both to small e/ws
Gorg_George

After a hammering on Friday and a little touch landed yesterday I am to get involved at Kempton today.

2-50
1pt Turf Time @ 7.0
2pts Turf Time TBP @ 2.44

3-20
1pt State General @ 8.62
2pts State General TBP @ 2.0 (3 places)

3-55
2pts Cut And Thrust @ 13.5
2pts Cut And Thrust TBP @ 3.5

4-55
3pts Pegasus Again @ 2.4

Total outlay 13 pts

Good luck if your playing
theGoingStick

YAIYAM wrote:
theGoingStick wrote:
Won In The Dark for me here.


Everything points to it but I just have that feeling one will beat him today.
Not a betting price anyway


He didn't have much to beat there to be fair!
YAIYAM

theGoingStick wrote:
YAIYAM wrote:
theGoingStick wrote:
Won In The Dark for me here.


Everything points to it but I just have that feeling one will beat him today.
Not a betting price anyway


He didn't have much to beat there to be fair!


I was surprised how easy he won even though the weights favoured him.

Good pointer for Alpine Eagle in the next as If you took his form literally with Won In The Dark he would be well handicapped off his mark in this up and coming race.
theGoingStick

YAIYAM wrote:
Good pointer for Alpine Eagle in the next as If you took his form literally with Won In The Dark he would be well handicapped off his mark in this up and coming race.


And doesn't the market know it, your 8/1 has long gone!
Andy

Won In The Dark won that with a bit to spare, though he probably should have given the opposition and race conditions.  I backed this horse at 40/1 for the CH last year but he's as big as 100/1 this year.  I guess he probably isn't good enough hence he has benefitted from the drop in class.
YAIYAM

newyorktony wrote:
2-15 leo  i agree with yaiyam that alpine eagle will go close but i fancy the other harrington runner in colleoni to go well i have took the 16-1 and also slievecorragh 20-1 both to small e/ws


2nd & 4th if only you had Betfair in America.

well done
Owl of Minerva

Penn Da Benn looks too big @ 5.2 here. TTB has had some hard races and been below par and stamina is unproven. CC is arguably more exposed than PDB and has a similar level of form. PDB has course form and if he comes on for that last run should be right there.
newyorktony

its frustrating that i cant bet on betfair but there is no way round it!! betting in the US isnt easy as you cannot take the price so some prices go in alot and others go out    when i backed lahaleeb in the canadian race i would have been happy with 16s and she drifted to 40-1 i have backed horses that are 10-1 on morning line and they start at 6-5 its crazy really.....  anyway after mics delight 20-1 1st  some fool 6-1 3rd  and now these two im at last in some form happy days      

YAIYAM wrote:
newyorktony wrote:
2-15 leo  i agree with yaiyam that alpine eagle will go close but i fancy the other harrington runner in colleoni to go well i have took the 16-1 and also slievecorragh 20-1 both to small e/ws


2nd & 4th if only you had Betfair in America.

well done
newyorktony

trying to strike while the iron is hot     surely old charm must have a very good chance in the 4-50 won very well last beating a mullins horse easily and this the first the favourite will be racing against the boys so will take her one   have took the 4-1 with ladsbrokes
Owl of Minerva

Lough Derg has to be chanced @ 8.6w/2.54tbp

30%-70%
Owl of Minerva

Swagger

3.55 Kempton
Last Sovereign to Win @ 7/2
Ray of Joy to Win @ 10/1


Regards.
theGoingStick

Owl of Minerva wrote:
Lough Derg has to be chanced @ 8.6w/2.54tbp

30%-70%


Poor old Lough Derg the fire wasn't burning brightly today  
YAIYAM

Aran can take this on the way to Cheltenham glory  
theGoingStick

YAIYAM wrote:
Aran can take this on the way to Cheltenham glory  


Keep the faith YY     I think he was a better hurdler!

Tranquil Sea for me in this.
Swagger

I didn't expect Kipchak to be able to last home, but fair play too good for Last Sovereign.

4.55 Kempton
Pegusis Again is a worthy favourite and will try and make all but he looks underpriced and could set it up for Gallentry who is well handicapped to reverse form around a track I think suits much better than Lingfield.

Regards.
YAIYAM

theGoingStick wrote:
YAIYAM wrote:
Aran can take this on the way to Cheltenham glory  


Keep the faith YY     I think he was a better hurdler!

Tranquil Sea for me in this.


It was his first Injury that destroyed his career not that he was a better hurdler, most race horses would have never raced again after that.
Todays trip was on the short side and looked like a warm up for a future race wether it will be the Festival Plate or the William Hill or even for Aintree, Punchestown is anyones guess
theGoingStick

theGoingStick wrote:
Tranquil Sea for me in this.


He did that well. I kind of ruled him out of the Ryanair because he is a handicapper stepping into graded company and his festival form lead me to believe that maybe he is a bit of a mudlark, I may have to take another look at him as he could be progressing at a rate of knots this season.
theGoingStick

YAIYAM wrote:
It was his first Injury that destroyed his career not that he was a better hurdler, most race horses would have never raced again after that.
Todays trip was on the short side and looked like a warm up for a future race wether it will be the Festival Plate or the William Hill or even for Aintree, Punchestown is anyones guess


Certainly not a sound horse. It's a shame really as he showed a lot of promise but I doubt he'll ever be a Cheltenham festival winner now.
Owl of Minerva

Tranquil Sea pretty impressive I thought. Had loads more up his sleeve if needed

Snowy Morning stayed on extremely well. Mullins looks to have a few good Grand National chances
Andy

Owl of Minerva wrote:


Snowy Morning stayed on extremely well. Mullins looks to have a few good Grand National chances


Yep.  Snowy hit one hard but ran a good race and Arbor Supreme ran very well earlier to be 2nd over a trip much shorter than ideal.  Not a bad day for Willie with a few winners as well.
three out

Swagger wrote:
I didn't expect Kipchak to be able to last home, but fair play too good for Last Sovereign.

4.55 Kempton
Pegusis Again is a worthy favourite and will try and make all but he looks underpriced and could set it up for Gallentry who is well handicapped to reverse form around a track I think suits much better than Lingfield.

Regards.


Nice work Swgger.
FallonFacta

Mikael D'Hagueneut on ATR  

Irish Invader, Jayo and J'vole too
alansouthcoast

Owl of Minerva wrote:
Lough Derg has to be chanced @ 8.6w/2.54tbp

30%-70%


Twice a winner of todays race, he run a shocker and I threw away my ticket on the first circuit. He still earnt £1.500 for fifth place though.

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