[catbiscuit]

Right i get paid tomorrow and i'm having a few a/p punts on the  english derby and with there being a cracking race @ 9.15 on sky tomorrow involving a few of the derby hopefuls, what are your picks for the derby?

Me i'm 5 to 6 dogs in total, 2/3 to win and 3 each way.

mine are as follows at the min:
BOA @ 16-1 such a good price considering he was 8-1 not so long ago.
Ballymac Under @ 10-1 such a good dog worth a punt

Other possabilites are:
bubbly totti @ 25-1(still think he's a six bend dog), tyrur rhino @16-1 (irish derby winner), westmead diver @ 50-1 (probably the best of current westmead crop) and possibly Meenala Cruiser @ 100-1 just out of blind loyalty lol

latest prices from bet365 upto 50-1:
Ballymac Under 10/1
Tyrur Kieran 10/1
Rossacredibility 14/1
Barnfield On Air 16/1
Tyrur Rhino 16/1
Westmead Lord 16/1
Ninja Jamie 16/1
Farloe Reason 16/1
Tyrur Laurel 20/1
Droopys Robinho 20/1
Loyal Honcho 25/1
Bubbly Totti 25/1
Skywalker Ace 33/1
Ardmayle Champ 33/1
Farloe Black 33/1
Catunda Harry 33/1
Forest Master 33/1
Kryptonite 33/1
Melodys Pat 33/1
Westmead Keawn 40/1
Toosey Blue 40/1
Blenhiem Dubh 40/1
Farloe Hurricane 40/1
Mustang Garcia 50/1
Blonde Jeannie 50/1
Rio Quando 50/1
Boherna On Air 50/1
Blonde Dino 50/1
Plough Lane 50/1
Droopys Mikel 50/1
Westmead Diver 50/1
Killough Tale 50/1
Blackstone Gene 50/1
Lethal Freddie 50/1
Advantage Johnny 50/1

[alansouthcoast]

Cat, i have taken the liberty of renaming the thread, so anyone wanting info on the Derby finds it all in the one place.

I am intending to do several £2 + wins as well as a few each ways. So far i have gone for Kilkenny Lonjack in a big way. Some at 170 and more at 100

Bubbly Totti.... Maybe he needs further but im sure he will run well.
Ballymac Under.... Great puppy as shown by his low price.
Tyrur Rhino but i suspect he may defend his crown in Ireland. I tipped him up at big prices for the semi and the final last year at Shelbourne.
Tyrur Laurel.... She can only get better.
Farloe Reason....Ran well for a long way last year
Blonde jeannie.....big price in my opinion.

My overal aim is to lay out about £50 and ensure a profit if any one wins
I also have a habit of doing several at 1000/1 £1 e/w for fun

[catbiscuit]

with my little win last night i've made my 7 bets for the derby, i may make more later in the month but for now i've done these:

win bets:
BOA @ 16-1
Tyrur rhino @ 16-1
Westmead lord @ 16-1

e/w bets:
romeo maldini@33-1
farloe black @ 33-1
westmead diver @ 50-1
meenala crusier @ 100-1

[shamardal84]

When does this start? Just so I am not too late with my bets

[alansouthcoast]

First Round Thursday 1st, Friday 2nd & Saturday 3rd May
Second Round Friday 9th & Saturday 10th May
Third Round Saturday 17th May
Quarter Finals Tuesday 20th May
Semi Finals Saturday 24th May
The Final Saturday 31st May

It is normally in June but has been moved due to Euro 2008. Look out now for qualifying races.

[catbiscuit]

[Kylegrove1]

I just found this forum when I did a search for the Greyhound Derby 2008 Trap Draw and have sign up and joined. I have been actively involved in greyhound racing for 30 years now and also worked with some of the best greyhond trainers in the business.

I have my own site which is more to do with my job as I am a Taxi driver at Stansted Airport and I'm running trips from Stansted Airport to Wimbledon Greyhound Stadium for all the Greyhound Derby 2008 race nights.

I hope to meet a few of you there.  

[westmeadhawk]

[alansouthcoast]

Dont tell me you get paid to take people to the track, watch the dogs, then drive them hone ?

Welcome to the forum Kylegrove.

[Kylegrove1]

Thanks for the welcome guys and yes this year I am hoping to get people to pay for me to go to Wimbledon for the Greyhound Derby.

I was working for Seamus Graham when he went to Wimbledon and we had a sad night the night of the semi finals. I was also with Nick Savva when Andy was listed as the trainer for Droopys Hewitt but that was another sad time.

I was the handler that put Westmead Hawk into the traps the night of his first 'Open' race win before going off to St Kitts to build a Greyhound Track and missing the last 3 years.

So let's hope that this year I get the chance to have fun and I look forward to watching the likes of Nick Savva, Paul Hennessy, Fraser Black, Seamus Graham and Charlie Lister practise their profession.

Let the Greyhound Derby 2008 begin.  

[catbiscuit]

just a note that dailydogs are having a comp on during the derby and its free!!!! also there is a chance of winning £250 free bet  

[alansouthcoast]

[catbiscuit]

[alansouthcoast]

Antepost bets so far.

Kilkenny Lonjack  £2 @ 170
Kilkenny Lonjack  £2 @ 130
Kilkenny Lonjack  £3 @ 120
Kilkenny Lonjack  £8 @ 100
Eye onthe Force   £2 @ 250
Eye onthe Force £2 @ 330
Ballymac Under   £4 @ 11.5
Blonde Jeannie  £2 @ 100
Blonde Jeannie £2 @ 140
Bubbly Totti   £2 @ 46
Broadway Sizzler  £2 @ 999.... Non runner
Tyrur Laurel  £2 @ 32
Toosey Tops £2 @ 999
Toosey Tops £2 @ 999
Madges Millions £2 top @ 640
Annual Scholes £2 @ 395
Calzaghe Ted £2 @ 775
Side leg £2 @ 200
Rio Quando £2 @ 29
Fabulous Azure £2 @ 110
Romeo Turbo £2 @ 60
Farloe Batman £2 @ 200
Lenson Express £2 @ 510
Loyal Honco £4 @21
Seanis lad £2 @ 250
Droopys Obafemi £2 @ 75
Commander Chief £2 @ 75
Droopys Obafemi £4 @ 70  Drawn one and must qualify for the final IMHO


Blonde Jeannie 100/1
Farloe Superman 150/1
Eye Onthe Force 200/1
Calzaghe Ted 200/1
Barnfield Slippy 200/1....

All £1 E/w 1/4 odds 1,2,3,4  Corals doing first six but odds are shorter.

Edits to add a few more bets. The bottom list is with the bookies, the top list with Betfair.

Edited for updates May 8th
Edited again May 16th
And again May 20th
Yet again May 21st

[alansouthcoast]

Two big shocks, and its only the first night. Ballymac Under and Rossacredibility both being eliminated. I am wondering if either will now be aimed at the Irish equivelent.

The fastest time was Farloe Reasons 28.58 but Barnfield on Air was close behind in 28.60. If Barney keeps breaking fast he will soon be favourite for this. I am begining to wish i had taken some of the fancy odds that were available on Betfair. Even 25/1 could look massive in hindsight.

Results available here;
http://www.thedogs.co.uk/trap6/re..._result_full.php?meetingid=208243

[alansouthcoast]

I guess the biggest shock of the second night of heats, was both Spears Tarquynn and Farloe Black getting eliminated. The two fastest times were Barnfield Slippy in 28.60 and Kilkenny Lonjack in 28.63

http://www.thedogs.co.uk/trap6/re..._result_full.php?meetingid=208242

[alansouthcoast]

SECOND ROUND

Derby draw - second round
FRIDAY MAY 9
WIMBLEDON
20.15 480m Blue Square Greyhound Derby 2nd Rnd Heat 1 1 Barnfield On Air (m) (S Poots, Unatt) 2 Farloe Reason (m) (C R Lister, Unatt) 3 Romeo Maldini (w) (D P Firmager, Coven) 4 Side Leg (w) (R P Rees, Wdon) 5 Hulk Hogan (w) (M Grady, Stgbrn) 6 Shanacashel Lad (w) (O K Mckenna, Ire)
20.30 480m Blue Square Greyhound Derby 2nd Rnd Heat 2 1 Express Ego (O K Mckenna, Ire) 2 Blonde Dino (m) (J G Mullins, Yrmth) 3 Carlsberg Flash (m) (B Silkman, Unatt) 4 Eye Onthe Veto (w) (M A Wallis, Wstow) 5 Westmead Lord (w) (N Savva, Hnlow) 6 Monis Pet (w) (R P Rees, Wdon)
20.45 480m Blue Square Greyhound Derby 2nd Rnd Heat 3 1 Tyrur Kieran (P Hennessy, Ire) 2 Lenson Express (A M P Collett, Stgbrn) 3 Rocky Rocket (m) (G Andreas, Stgbrn) 4 Advantage Johnny (w) (O K Mckenna, Ire) 5 Toosey Blue (w) (J G Mullins, Yrmth) 6 Scintillas Ruby (w) (M A Wallis, Wstow)
21.00 480m Blue Square Greyhound Derby 2nd Rnd Heat 4 1 Love Mac (M L Locke, Romfd) 2 Captain Solo (K Billingham, Monmr) 3 Pigalle Lady (R P Rees, Wdon) 4 Droopys Kiowa (w) (A J Peacock, Wdon) 5 A Million Maid (w) (L G Tuffin, Notts) 6 Droopys Wells (w) (E Mcnair, Unatt)
21.15 480m Blue Square Greyhound Derby 2nd Rnd Heat 5 1 Youllhavetogo (A G Baker, HallG) 2 Seanis Strike (M A Wallis, Wstow) 3 Barnfield Mike (G J Hutt, Unatt) 4 Catunda Harry (m) (O K Mckenna, Ire) 5 Marshman (m) (M Mavrias, Stgbrn) 6 Ninja Jamie(m) (C R Lister, Unatt)
21.30 480m Blue Square Greyhound Derby 2nd Rnd Heat 6 1 Farley Legend (B Doyle, Wdon) 2 Droopys Obafemi (E Soppitt, Unatt) 3 Lockdale Diamond (M A Wallis, Wstow) 4 Farloe Niall (m) (B Draper, Unatt) 5 Lethal Frankie (w) (S A Cahill, Wstow) 6 Droopys Tobey (w) (G J Hutt, Unatt)
21.45 480m Blue Square Greyhound Derby 2nd Rnd Heat 7 1 Baran Pedro (S Baggs, Wstow) 2 Love Tiger (M L Locke, Romfd) 3 Melodys Pat (m) (P J Fitzgerald, Ire) 4 Plough Lane (m) (S Graham, Ire) 5 Barnfield Leo (w) (C Duggan, Unatt) 6 Move On Kewell (w) (B Doyle, Wdon)
22.00 480m Blue Square Greyhound Derby 2nd Rnd Heat 8 1 Toosey Tops (K Mullins, Wstow) 2 Musical Jack (M A Cumner, Readg) 3 Commander Chief (M A Wallis, Wstow) 4 Tyrur Laurel (m) (P Hennessy, Ire) 5 Droopys Curbs (m) (D Childs, Unatt) 6 Annual Scholes (w) (C Duggan, Unatt)

[alansouthcoast]

SATURDAY MAY 10
WIMBLEDON
20.15 480m Blue Square Greyhound Derby 2nd Rnd Heat 9
1 Calzaghe Ted (M Harris, Monmr) 2 Blue Jockey (F Black, Ire) 3 Farloe Batman (m) (A E Gardiner, Hove) 4 Cyclers Lark (m) (B Doyle, Wdon) 5 Tyrur Rhino (w) (C R Lister, Unatt) 6 Pennys Fleetfoot (w) (J M Walton, BVue)
20.30 480m Blue Square Greyhound Derby 2nd Rnd Heat 10 1 Black Ice Boss (J W Reynolds, Romfd) 2 Kryptonite (C R Lister, Unatt) 3 Lenson Joker (m) (A M P Collett, Stgbrn) 4 Fabulous Azure (m) (D P Firmager, Coven) 5 Noirs Wild (m) (O D Kueres, BVue) 6 Westmead Keawn (w) (N Savva, Hnlow)
20.45 480m Blue Square Greyhound Derby 2nd Rnd Heat 11 1 Tyrur Rocky (A G Baker, HallG) 2 Ronnies Hustle (K A Marlow, Harlow) 3 Broadway Spark (S White, Unatt) 4 Loyal Honcho (m) (S Graham, Ire) 5 Droopys Norman (w) (F Black, Ire) 6 Barnfield Slippy (w) (S Poots, Unatt)
21.00 480m Blue Square Greyhound Derby 2nd Rnd Heat 12 1 Rockburst Mason (M A Wallis, Wstow) 2 Ullid Conor (P Hennessy, Ire) 3 Boherna On Air (B Draper, Unatt) 4 Unique Option (m) (D R Pruhs, Pbrgh) 5 Mustang Garcia (m) (S Poots, Unatt) 6Talking Man (w) (P M Donovan, Wdon)
21.15 480m Blue Square Greyhound Derby 2nd Rnd Heat 13 1 Tyrur Jay (P Hennessy, Ire) 2 Hackney Carriage (J G Mullins, Yrmth) 3 Kilkenny Lonjack (m) (S A Cahill, Wstow) 4 Machu Picchu (m) (P Cronin, Ire) 5 Dilemmas Flight (w) (N Savva, Hnlow) 6 Madges Millions (w) (J T Foster, Wdon)
21.30 480m Blue Square Greyhound Derby 2nd Rnd Heat 14 1 Getmeadoctor (M Harris, Monmr) 2 Ronaldos Merit (S A Cahill, Wstow) 3 Droopys Maestro (m) (P Buckley, Ire) 4 Swift N Smart (w) (N P Mead, Coven) 5 Romeo Turbo (w) (D P Firmager, Coven) 6 Baby Blaze (w) (N Mcellistrim, Wdon)
21.45 480m Blue Square Greyhound Derby 2nd Rnd Heat 15 1 Blonde Jeannie (J G Mullins, Yrmth) 2 Seanis Lad (M A Wallis, Wstow) 3 TempleLad (B A Clemenson, Hove) 4 Splanc (m) (B Treanor, Ire) 5 Blitz (w) (D R Stevenson, Unatt) 6 Bubbly Totti (w) (E Soppitt, Unatt)
22.00 480m Blue Square Greyhound Derby 2nd Rnd Heat 16 1 Barnfield Woody (G J Hutt, Unatt) 2 Blackstone Champ (B A Clemenson, Hove) 3 Cats Whiskers (m) (B Draper, Unatt) 4 Rio Quando (m) (D C Riordan, Hnlow) 5 Lowgate Theo (w) (P Liddle, Sheff) 6 Casino Valentine (w) (M C B Collins, Hove)

[Mikey]

I still think Barnfield on Air is a great price at 20's, I backed him before round 1 and while there's no reason for his price to hsve shortened for getting through, he won in a quick time. He's in a killer heat, but a win would see his priced halved. Any comments?

[alansouthcoast]

The worry for Barney backers is this. How will he cope comming from behind a wall of horses. No doubt hes special, but as yet he only does that if he leads. His heat isnt the easiest , as four good dogs are fighting for three places. If he breaks he qualifies, if he miises the break maybe not.

Incidently todays RP has an A-Z write up on every dog. Well worth the money. Anyone wanting to know what was sais about any individual dog, let me know.

As for 20/1, i think its a great price with a view to laying off some later. If he makes the final he will be 1st or 2nd fav for sure.

[westmeadhawk]

[alansouthcoast]

Westmead, full credit on spotting my deliberate error. My next question is why has a dog i backed at 200/1  E/w, dropped to around 20/1 after just one heat ? I know Barnfield Slippy posted a fast time, but i am on double the odds a place 1,2,3,4 than i would now get for a win... Not that i am moaning.

[catbiscuit]

[Mikey]

good site for the replays
http://www.bluesquaregreyhoundderby.com/video.shtml

[alansouthcoast]

Mikey Farloe Reason and Barnfield On Air are middle runners, the other fopur are wide seeds. Romeo Maldini and Side Leg are very good dogs though, Side Leg went a long way in this last year and is a consistent Wimbledon dog. BOA should hit the bend first, if so its good night nurse, its a cracking heat to start the night with.

Thanks for the link.

[Mikey]

Does anyone know the draw for the 3rd round, has it been made yet ?

[Mikey]

Answered my own question.........

http://www.bluesquaregreyhoundderby.com/images/Sat3rd.pdf

looks another tough draw for my 2 picks Barnfield on Air and Farloe Reason.

[alansouthcoast]

Heat 1: 1 Tyrur Kieran 2 Cyclers Lark 3 Rio Quando (m) 4 Cats Whiskers (m) 5 A Million Maid (w) 6 Droopys Tobey (w)
Heat 2: 1 Seanis Lad 2 Ronnies Hustle 3 Loyal Honcho (m) 4 Monis Pet (w) 5Kilkenny Lonjack (w) 6 Romeo Turbo (w)
Heat 3: 1 Commander Chief 2 Farloe Batman 3 Tyrur Laurel (m) 4 Barnfield Leo (w) 5 Toosey Blue (w) 6 Annual Scholes (w)
Heat 4: 1 Captain Solo 2 Love Tiger 3 Droopys Obafemi 4 Farley Legend (m) 5 Lenson Joker (m) 6 Splanc (m)
Heat 5: 1 Express Ego 2 Blue Jockey 3 Farloe Reason 4 Catunda Harry (m) 5 Melodys Pat (m) 6 Barnfield Slippy (w)
Heat 6: 1 Boherna On Air 2 Youllhavetogo 3 Mustang Garcia 4 Getmeadoctor 5 Lenson Express 6 Bubbly Totti (w)
Heat 7: 1 Love Mac 2 Seanis Strike 3 Barnfield Woody 4 Fabulous Azure 5 Machu Picchu (m) 6 Dilemmas Flight (w)
Heat 8: 1 Barnfield On Air 2 Ullid Conor 3 Kryptonite 4 Blonde Dino (m) 5 Side Leg (w) 6 Droopys Maestro (w)

Mikey, at least Barnfield has the rail to help. Ullid Conor never gives up, Kryptonite has tons of early and Side Leg is a very good Wimledon regular. Barney must either crack out, or prove he can come from behind.

Farloe Reason also has a tough heat. I coudlnt rule out anything there, except maybe Melodys Pat, i just hope Barnfield Slippy qualifies for me.

Best draw of the lot is probably Bubblys Totti, drawn six in what looks an easier heat.

If you took the 25/1 on Betfair last week, lay off your stake at least, that way you have a free bet.

Several shocks Friday and saturday, Blonde Jeannie was never in the race. Tyrur Rhino was withdrawn, Westmead Lord, Westmead keawn, Unique Option, Romeo Maldini, Ninja Jamie and Advantage Johnny all gor eliminated.

[westmeadhawk]

I can hardly bear it    

But I am happy Loyal Honcho is still hanging in there  

edited to add: less overjoyed at his draw with super hot Kilkenny Lonjack!

[alansouthcoast]

http://live.williamhillradio.co.uk/radio-main.php?st=GR

[alansouthcoast]

1 3 4  Tyrur Kieren sounded impressive and made all from the first bend. Rio Quando chased him home with trouble behind

[westmeadhawk]

Good he's doing it Derby style

[alansouthcoast]

Its live on Blue Sq and Will Hill if you have an acc.

[alansouthcoast]

1 5 3 Kilkenny and Loyal just beat T6 for the places.

[westmeadhawk]

Kilkenny and Honcho have qualified behind Seanis Strike?

[alansouthcoast]

3 1 5 Tyrur Laurel made all..... my two other selections were eliminated.

Annual Scholes and Farloe Batman.... Toosey Blue was pipped by Commander in Chief for second

[alansouthcoast]

[westmeadhawk]

Good stuff, thanks Alan.

[alansouthcoast]

5 6 3  First bend pile up and the fastest dog so far, Love Tiger, was eliminated.

Shall i move tonights action to a seperate thread ?

[alansouthcoast]

5 1 6 Catunda Harry and Farloe Reason elimimated.... biggest shock of the night so far.

[westmeadhawk]

[alansouthcoast]

6 1 5  Bubblys Totti broke well and went on to win.

Mustang Garcia eliminated

[westmeadhawk]

I have omitted to mention that I was quite sweet on Express Ego at the beginning.

Slightly annoying now he keeps hanging in there.

[alansouthcoast]

I said only Melodys pat could be discounted in heat five. Guess who won. Did you back Express Ego at all ?

[westmeadhawk]

No, through gritted teeth.  I couldn't make a case for it in my own admittedly challenged mind.  I read somewhere a pro article in the RP and was tempted.

[alansouthcoast]

3 1 6 Dilemmas Flight qualified but a big shock with Machu Picchu not making it.

[westmeadhawk]

Crossing things for Dino in the next.  

[westmeadhawk]

Get in the 4!!!

And glad BOA qualified too.  

[alansouthcoast]

4 3 1 Barnfield on Air only just qualified for third. Blonde Dino and Kryptonite had a scrap for first two places.

[westmeadhawk]

Quarter Final One

1 Barnfield On Air (R)
2 Boherna On Air (R)
3 Tyrer Laurel (M)
4 Splank (M)
5 Cats Wiskers (M)
6 Blonde Dino (M)


Quarter Final Two

1 Droopys Obefemi (R)
2 Lenson Express (R)
3 Barnfield Woody
4 Lenson Joker
5 Loyal Honjo
6 Melodys Pat

Quarter Final Three

1 Tyrur Kieran (R)
2 Commander Chief (R)
3 Bubbly Totti (W)
4 Barnfield Slippy (W)
5 Kilkenny Lonjack (W)
6 Toosey Blue (W)

Quarter Final Four

1 Express Ego (R)
2 Kryptonite (R)
3 Seanis Lad (R)
4 Love Mac (R)
5 Rio Quando (M)
6 Dilemmas Flight (6)

[alansouthcoast]

1 Barnfield On Air (R)
2 Boherna On Air (R)
3 Tyrer Laurel (M)
4 Splanc (M)
5 Cats Wiskers (M)
6 Blonde Dino (M)

1 Droopys Obafemi (R)
2 Lenson Express (R)
3 Barnfield Woody (R)
4 Lenson Joker (M)
5 Loyal Honcho (M)
6 Melodys Pat (M}

1 Tyrur Kieran (R)
2 Commander Chief (R)
3 Bubbly Totti (W)
4 Barnfield Slippy (W)
5 Kilkenny Lonjack (W)
6 Toosey Blue (W)

1 Express Ego (R)
2 Kryptonite (R)
3 Seanis Lad (R)
4 Love Mac (R)
5 Rio Quando (M)
6 Dilemmas Flight (W)

How the Hell have they got 4 wide runners in one race and none in two ?

[alansouthcoast]

Okay ive lost the plot. Just dipped in for a few more and now im left with the following,

Heat one
Tyrur laurel

Heat two
Loyal Honco
Droopys Obafemi
Lenson Express

Heat three
Commander Chief
Kilkenny Lonjock
Barnfield Slippy
Bubblys Totti

Heat four
Rio Quando
Seanis lad

Two show a very small loss, all the others would be a win. Most i could get in the semis is 9, the least i could get is 1. fingers crossed and am expecting 5 through.

[catbiscuit]

after watching the 1/4s the dogs that impressed me the most were:

tyrur laurel
senis lad (big outside chance)
toosey blue

my pick for the derby toosey blue!!

was very dissapointed with boa somthings not right with him i think....

[alansouthcoast]

The draw will be crucial, i will post it later as its probably on Betfair by now.

Kilkenny Lonjack stood to wins me a tidy sum, i havent much hope of their being a big shock unless the draw is in my favour. I agree about Toosey Blue, he is the strongest finisher and just needs to hold his breaking together. He is also the only wide runner left.

[theGoingStick]

Just out of interest does it really matter if a dog wins his heat or is it highly unlikely it will win the competition if that happens.

[theGoingStick]

Oh and I take it Bubbly Totti was eliminated tonight ? Unfortunate, must of been one of the most fancied runners to exit the competition tonight  

[alansouthcoast]

TGS yes i think you are right about Bubblys Totti. As for the heats, well the first three qualify, but they can still be a good form guide.

Here is the draw.

1-droopys obafemi
2-lenson express
3-express ego
4-kryptonite
5-tyrur laurel
6-toosey blue

1-tyrur kieran
2-barnfield on air
3-commander chief
4-seanis lad
5-loyal honcho
6-blonde dino

Toosey Blue may struggle to clear Tyrur Laurel in the first, Kryptonite is likely to blast out and turn left, causing chaos on the inner.

Barnfield on Air must blast out in heat two, Tyrur Kieran will keep him company to the bend and again there could be chaos at the first bend.

I have five left and only expect two to qualify if the races are cleanly run.

[Mikey]

The 1st Semi looks slightly easier to call with the front 3 Toosey Blue, Tyrur Laural and Kryptonite a couple of lengths clear of the next best. As Alan said Toosey Blue won't get it as easy with Tyrur Laural on his inside and they could hamper one another. Although Kryptonite was slightly behind TB and TL on time tonight, he missed the break and still hit the 1st bend in front - he has massive early pace and is my banker to get through on Saturday. I cant see T1,T2 and T3 being fast enough to get in unless 5 and 6 come together.
Prediction 4 x 6 x 5

The 2nd semi is trickier to call, I can't see BOA and Tyrur Kieren both qualifying for the final from 1 & 2, so whoever hits the 1st bend in front may well do so at the expense of the other. I've got my fingers crossed for Blonde Dino who I have at 100/1 e/w (1,2,3,4), but the mass of railers left in means he's always going to be in 5 or 6. One to take from tonight's heats is Commander Chief, slowly away (5.09), and still only 1.5 lengths behind in the hottest heat of the night. Can still be backed at 50's
Prediction 1 x 3 x 6

I still have 3 left in
Kryptonite (16)
BOA (20)
Blonde Dino (100)

[alansouthcoast]

TGS posted this on the daily thread.

Here's the bluesq odds for the final :-

Kryptonite   3/1
Lenson Express   50/1
Tyrur Kieran   11/4
Loyal Honcho   5/2
Tyrur Laurel   11/4
Blonde Dino   10/1

Looks very open.

I would agree with him, Lenson Express looks overpriced at 50s though.

[alansouthcoast]

Tyrur Laurel for me tonight. But boy, what a race in prospect.

Kryptonite could be away and gone from trap one, except Trap One has never won a final.

Lenson Express could ping the leads and will instantly head for the rail, making one a risky bet.

Tyrur Keiran could fly out of box three, ensuring first bend chaos with the two dogs inside him

Loyal Honcho could run the same as last week and be up with the lead from pillar to post.

Tyrur Laurel never runs a bad race, why start now and the draw will help as well.

Blonde Dino could show a glimmer of last years form and then its good night nurse.

5 4 3 for me tonight... Two though, is my biggest winner. 5 or 4 get me just about level on the whole competition. 2 is also the best e/w bet for ages. He tends to fade but has the bets halfway split.

[theGoingStick]

Seems as though most of us think Tyrur Laurel will win tonight.

Don't forget bluesq are going e/w 3 places if you fancy one of the bigger priced fancies.

My initial thoughts are to back Ninja Jamie and lay Loyal Honcho tonight.

[lenahan]

trap 1 kryptonite or trap 5 tyler laural for me in the greyhound derby in 15 minutes.....

Dutching both 6/1 and 3/1 respectively on betfair !

[alansouthcoast]

Mikey, well done with Blonde Dino, who knows if he would have won with a clear run.

[Mikey]

Cheers Alan - I really enjoyed this years Derby, and with Blonde Dino placing I made a nice profit. A slight shame the final was so messy, I think only Honcho got a clear run

- who knows what might have happened if Dino had got round the 1st bend trouble free, he was definately a lot closer to the winner than in the semi..........