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Flatz

BDO World Darts Championship

Well, this starts tomorrow. Any of the Darts fans out there have any opinions on the Winner or any of the matches?
I saw that earlier on the week that Gary Anderson was the 9/4 favourite, but this tournament does tradionally tend to throw up a fair few shock results, and I fancy that Anderson could come unstuck against the 18-year old Dutch qualifier Fabian Roosenbrand. If anybody has got any early odds for this match, I would appreciate it if they could post them up.

Another thing worth looking at is the outright prices on Betfair for the players in the bottom quarter of the draw (3rd seed). From what I can gather, it could probaly be the weakest section of the draw, and so it could be worth having a few quid on some large-priced outsiders, with a view to one of them reaching the semi-final at least.

Looking forward to everyone's views.

Cheers

Flatz
archie mackenzie

hello flatz
the following from oddschecker
match odds
anderson- 1/8
roosenbrand- 6-1
set prices
anderson
3-0- 10-11
3-1- 11-4
3-2- 13-2
roosenbrand
3-0- 100-1
3-1- 25-1
3-2- 16-1

how about dracula has a long shot ted hankey???
cheers archie.
Flatz

archie mackenzie wrote:
hello flatz
the following from oddschecker
match odds
anderson- 1/8
roosenbrand- 6-1
set prices
anderson
3-0- 10-11
3-1- 11-4
3-2- 13-2
roosenbrand
3-0- 100-1
3-1- 25-1
3-2- 16-1

how about dracula has a long shot ted hankey???
cheers archie.

Cheers Archie,
I have had a small dabble on Betfair at around 7.5-1.
The Count probably played the best darts I have ever seen in this Tournament when he won it in 2000, especially winning the final 6-0 on a 170 checkout (and loads of 180s as well if memory seres me right).  I reckon that he would have even beaten Phil Taylor that year if he had played in the Tournament.  Always in with a squeak if he can get through the first couple of matches.

Cheers

Flatz
Jimbob

Ehem... If you will excuse the pun... You can never count out Hankey (well I thought it was funny anyway     ).

However, The Winmau World Masters is the biggest tournament bar the World Championships and Robert Thornton who won it is 20/1 with Laddies!!! Now you can say that Gary Anderson is the one they all have to beat & Gary Anderson wasn't in the World Masters as he was playing in The Grand Slam Of Darts at the time as was the heavily under rated Co Stompe but Wolfie, The Count, and most of the other BDO Big Shots were there & he saw them off! In that kind of form there is no reason why he can't win & 20/1 is a big price so I will have some of it I think!!

I also think the aforementioned Co Stompe is too big at 50's by the way!!!

Should be a good tournament whatever this year!!!
Flatz

Jimbob wrote:
Ehem... If you will excuse the pun... You can never count out Hankey (well I thought it was funny anyway     ).

However, The Winmau World Masters is the biggest tournament bar the World Championships and Robert Thornton who won it is 20/1 with Laddies!!! Now you can say that Gary Anderson is the one they all have to beat & Gary Anderson wasn't in the World Masters as he was playing in The Grand Slam Of Darts at the time as was the heavily under rated Co Stompe but Wolfie, The Count, and most of the other BDO Big Shots were there & he saw them off! In that kind of form there is no reason why he can't win & 20/1 is a big price so I will have some of it I think!!

I also think the aforementioned Co Stompe is too big at 50's by the way!!!

Should be a good tournament whatever this year!!!


Jimbob,
Currently 25 for Thornton and 55 for Stompe on Betfair.

Cheers

Flatz
shamardal84

The two that stand out for me are Shaun Greatbatch at 85.0 and Simon Whitlock at 19.5, Im gonna have small stakes on Greatbach and a decent bet on Whitlock who i think has a massive chance.
Jimbob

Flatz wrote:
Jimbob wrote:
Ehem... If you will excuse the pun... You can never count out Hankey (well I thought it was funny anyway     ).

However, The Winmau World Masters is the biggest tournament bar the World Championships and Robert Thornton who won it is 20/1 with Laddies!!! Now you can say that Gary Anderson is the one they all have to beat & Gary Anderson wasn't in the World Masters as he was playing in The Grand Slam Of Darts at the time as was the heavily under rated Co Stompe but Wolfie, The Count, and most of the other BDO Big Shots were there & he saw them off! In that kind of form there is no reason why he can't win & 20/1 is a big price so I will have some of it I think!!

I also think the aforementioned Co Stompe is too big at 50's by the way!!!

Should be a good tournament whatever this year!!!


Jimbob,
Currently 25 for Thornton and 55 for Stompe on Betfair.

Cheers

Flatz


Cheers Flatz. I took the 25's for Thornton but have already bet on Stompe so will have to make do with 50's. One of my New Years Resolutions is to use Betfair more(and learn to understand laying as I don't fully at the moment ).
Death n Taxes

Nixon to beat Adams 3.55 on Betfair. Nixon froze last year in the final. Adams has had a poor year since his win and there is a history of champions being knocked out in the first round and Adams has gone out in the first round before.
value seeker

Gary anderson hits the stage today and has been well backed to win it not suprised after his 7-3 beating of the power in the World darts trophy in September ,i expect a explosive start from the scotsman so was quite shocked to see skybet going 10/11 going on a anderson victory over dutchman roosenbrand.I  feel a early call coming on,get on anderson to win 3-0 , you know it makes sense
regards
value seeker
archie mackenzie

anyone watch colin moody play
what a character
i actually thought hed had a few too maney john smiths before the game playing with a big smile all the way throu.cheers archie.
Jimbob

value seeker wrote:
Gary anderson hits the stage today and has been well backed to win it not suprised after his 7-3 beating of the power in the World darts trophy in September ,i expect a explosive start from the scotsman so was quite shocked to see skybet going 10/11 going on a anderson victory over dutchman roosenbrand.I  feel a early call coming on,get on anderson to win 3-0 , you know it makes sense
regards
value seeker


With respect VS, I think you are under estimating Roosenbrand. What he lacks in experience he makes up for in talent and he is just one of a whole army of young Dutch players coming through the ranks. Having said all this, if I had to have a bet I would take Anderson but would be suprised if he won 3-0.

As I'm leaving the match alone I wish you good luck all the same
value seeker

Jimbob wrote:
value seeker wrote:
Gary anderson hits the stage today and has been well backed to win it not suprised after his 7-3 beating of the power in the World darts trophy in September ,i expect a explosive start from the scotsman so was quite shocked to see skybet going 10/11 going on a anderson victory over dutchman roosenbrand.I  feel a early call coming on,get on anderson to win 3-0 , you know it makes sense
regards
value seeker


With respect VS, I think you are under estimating Roosenbrand. What he lacks in experience he makes up for in talent and he is just one of a whole army of young Dutch players coming through the ranks. Having said all this, if I had to have a bet I would take Anderson but would be suprised if he won 3-0.

As I'm leaving the match alone I wish you good luck all the same

thanks for your comments its all about opinions which what makes gambling such a fasinating subject
garrinchas-dog

Anderson didnt look to bothered did he?
Off to the PDC with him me thinks
Death n Taxes

Death n Taxes wrote:
Nixon to beat Adams 3.55 on Betfair. Nixon froze last year in the final. Adams has had a poor year since his win and there is a history of champions being knocked out in the first round and Adams has gone out in the first round before.


Thank god I am winning at poker
value seeker

value seeker wrote:
Gary anderson hits the stage today and has been well backed to win it not suprised after his 7-3 beating of the power in the World darts trophy in September ,i expect a explosive start from the scotsman so was quite shocked to see skybet going 10/11 going on a anderson victory over dutchman roosenbrand.I  feel a early call coming on,get on anderson to win 3-0 , you know it makes sense
regards
value seeker

quote from gary anderson after getting beat 3-2 by a 6/1 dutch teenager in the first round.

"i didnt practise for the tournament but then i never practise.I just turn up ,so perhaps i deserve to lose"

just what you dont want to hear from your selection after he does your hard earned    
Flatz

Hi Valueseeker,
I'm not surprise at Anderson's comments.  I think that he has a mental problem with the Lakeside stage, and thinks he will lose the game before he starts.  Thats why I had a few quid on Roosenbrand, because I remembered Anderson's poor results there in past years.
Garrinchas-dog has probably got it right in that he will now be off to the PDC, where he will probably do a lot better in their version of the World Championship, because all said, he is a good darts player, but not at Lakeside!

I have some money on Roosenbrand for the title, but will probably lay quite a bit off, as he is up against Whitlock next, who I thought was the pick of the players on stage yesterday afternoon.

Cheers

Flatz
archie mackenzie

dracula throu to the next round flatz
up against boulton in the next round,the counts price has dropped from 33-1 to 14-1 surely this boulton fella aint that bad.cheers archie.
archie mackenzie

i caught the highlights of the dracula match v west and some sections of the crowd booing the count
is this type of behaviour a regular occurence on the darts circuit???
fair play to the ref for telling the boo boys to piss off into the car park if they wont to boo
only one thing for it dracula let your darts do the talking.cheers archie.
Flatz

archie mackenzie wrote:
i caught the highlights of the dracula match v west and some sections of the crowd booing the count
is this type of behaviour a regular occurence on the darts circuit???
fair play to the ref for telling the boo boys to piss off into the car park if they wont to boo
only one thing for it dracula let your darts do the talking.cheers archie.

Fair play to Ted, although I wouldn't fancy giving him any stick during a match, he might just sink his fangs into me!

Anybody see the darts last night?  Unfortunately I missed all the matches, but it seems to have gone pretty well to form (weren't there three 4-0's?), with Jimbob's selection Bob Thornton also winning through 4-2.  Did anybody really impress?

I have more interest in the bottom half of the draw, and still have overall bets on the four outsiders tonight at good odds. But, due to another oversight of mine, I will be unable to watch the darts again tonight, and can't access Betfair at work so won't be able to lay off on these as I had earlier planned.  Just have to hope that there are one or two shocks but can't really see either Whitlock or Stompe not winning tonight.
Luckily I have more than covered these pre-tournament bets with the Roosenbrand win in the first round, so lets just let it roll!

Cheers

Flatz
archie mackenzie

hello flatz
ive been told countless times i look like ted
imagine ted with a full head of hair,fatter face and about 4 stone heavier then thats me
one handsome fella
the scottish dracula    
flatz probably another of my daft questions but how do you lay a punt off ???at what price do you decide to lay off??cheers archie.
Flatz

archie mackenzie wrote:
hello flatz
ive been told countless times i look like ted
imagine ted with a full head of hair,fatter face and about 4 stone heavier then thats me
one handsome fella
the scottish dracula    
flatz probably another of my daft questions but how do you lay a punt off ???at what price do you decide to lay off??cheers archie.


Great image Archie!  
See my pm for reply.

Cheers

Flatz
Darren

I saw Webster's game last night and I am not as confident as I was about my 9/1 outright bet.

At one point he (and his opponent) missed about 20 doubles in a row, and after the win, Webster looked spent to me.

Can't really see him beating Fitton on current form of the last two matches. Fitton averaged 100.74 or something great like that.
Flatz

Darren wrote:
I saw Webster's game last night and I am not as confident as I was about my 9/1 outright bet.

At one point he (and his opponent) missed about 20 doubles in a row, and after the win, Webster looked spent to me.

Can't really see him beating Fitton on current form of the last two matches. Fitton averaged 100.74 or something great like that.

Darren,
I also heard that Martin Phillips missed a lot of doubles against Wolfie as well - is this true?  If so, the 4-0 scoreline might have been a bit flattering, and it could be worth putting a few quid on Bob Thornton to beat Adams in the next round.

Cheers

Flatz
Jimbob

Webster did look very average yesterday Darren. He will need to improve enormously to get in the running IMHO. I am thinking of laying off some of my bet on Thornton but may do it by simply backing whoever he plays! Last night was the first time I actually got to see any live darts due to other commitments and the fact that BBC Interactive doesn't work on Virgin Media

I did see darts extra on monday night though!!
Jimbob

Flatz wrote:
Darren wrote:
I saw Webster's game last night and I am not as confident as I was about my 9/1 outright bet.

At one point he (and his opponent) missed about 20 doubles in a row, and after the win, Webster looked spent to me.

Can't really see him beating Fitton on current form of the last two matches. Fitton averaged 100.74 or something great like that.

Darren,
I also heard that Martin Phillips missed a lot of doubles against Wolfie as well - is this true?  If so, the 4-0 scoreline might have been a bit flattering, and it could be worth putting a few quid on Bob Thornton to beat Adams in the next round.

Cheers

Flatz


Flatz, Thornton vs Wolfie is a coin toss IMHO. Adams wasn't at his best last night but he didn't need to be. Bob Thornton will give him more of a workout and will win if Adams played like he did last night but you know as well as I do Wolfie is perfectly capable of stepping it up a notch or two if the situation demands!!
Flatz

Jimbob wrote:
Flatz wrote:
Darren wrote:
I saw Webster's game last night and I am not as confident as I was about my 9/1 outright bet.

At one point he (and his opponent) missed about 20 doubles in a row, and after the win, Webster looked spent to me.

Can't really see him beating Fitton on current form of the last two matches. Fitton averaged 100.74 or something great like that.

Darren,
I also heard that Martin Phillips missed a lot of doubles against Wolfie as well - is this true?  If so, the 4-0 scoreline might have been a bit flattering, and it could be worth putting a few quid on Bob Thornton to beat Adams in the next round.

Cheers

Flatz


Flatz, Thornton vs Wolfie is a coin toss IMHO. Adams wasn't at his best last night but he didn't need to be. Bob Thornton will give him more of a workout and will win if Adams played like he did last night but you know as well as I do Wolfie is perfectly capable of stepping it up a notch or two if the situation demands!!

Jimbob,
I haven't seen Wolfie play yet, but I tought Thornton looked very good in the first round.  The best of the players I have watched so far is Simon Whitlock who played very well to beat Edwin Max in Round 1, and Mr Max was no slouch either, losing it 3-0 (3-2, 3-2, 3-2).
I am still hoping that Roosenbrand can beat him tonight however, as I still have the teenager to win outright!

Any odds for tonight's matches yet?

Cheers

Flatz
Jimbob

Best odds for tonight from Oddschecker

Whitlock 4/9
Roosenbrand 41/19

Boulton 9/4
Hankey 4/9

Woods Evens
Stompe 11/12

Van Eijden 23/10
Waites 2/5


If you're interested, tomorrow

Adams 8/11
Thornton 5/4

Webster 11/10
Fitton 16/19
Flatz

Jimbob wrote:
Best odds for tonight from Oddschecker

Whitlock 4/9
Roosenbrand 41/19

Boulton 9/4
Hankey 4/9

Woods Evens
Stompe 11/12

Van Eijden 23/10
Waites 2/5


If you're interested, tomorrow

Adams 8/11
Thornton 5/4

Webster 11/10
Fitton 16/19

Thanks Jimbob,
Out of those I would fancy a dabble on Boulton, as the Count can blow hot and cold, and at the very least there should be a good opportunity for laying off in-running for a guaranteed win.
Unfortunately no TV/Betfair for me tonight, so will have to wait for the results later on tonight when I get home!

Cheers

Flatz
archie mackenzie

Flatz wrote:
archie mackenzie wrote:
hello flatz
ive been told countless times i look like ted
imagine ted with a full head of hair,fatter face and about 4 stone heavier then thats me
one handsome fella
the scottish dracula    
flatz probably another of my daft questions but how do you lay a punt off ???at what price do you decide to lay off??cheers archie.


Great image Archie!  
See my pm for reply.

Cheers

Flatz
hello flatz
clear has mud
nice opportunity to make a few bucks off woods tonight
the count to win tonight.cheers archie.
Jimbob

archie mackenzie wrote:
Flatz wrote:
archie mackenzie wrote:
hello flatz
ive been told countless times i look like ted
imagine ted with a full head of hair,fatter face and about 4 stone heavier then thats me
one handsome fella
the scottish dracula    
flatz probably another of my daft questions but how do you lay a punt off ???at what price do you decide to lay off??cheers archie.


Great image Archie!  
See my pm for reply.

Cheers

Flatz
hello flatz
clear has mud
nice opportunity to make a few bucks off woods tonight
the count to win tonight.cheers archie.


Hi Archie.

The bookies can't seperate the Wizard and the Count most going 5/6 a piece! I'm leaving the match well alone but with that and Bob Thornton vs Wolfie what a cracking night of arrers we have in store!!! I may have a bet on Adams just to make sure of a profit as I have Bob Thornton for outright winner & either could win!! I backed Bob Thornton on Betfair so may lay some of my stake off but last time I tried to do that was in a snooker tournament & I messed up & ended up laying all my stake and losing a big wedge so am a bit wary!
archie mackenzie

Jimbob wrote:
archie mackenzie wrote:
Flatz wrote:
archie mackenzie wrote:
hello flatz
ive been told countless times i look like ted
imagine ted with a full head of hair,fatter face and about 4 stone heavier then thats me
one handsome fella
the scottish dracula    
flatz probably another of my daft questions but how do you lay a punt off ???at what price do you decide to lay off??cheers archie.


Great image Archie!  
See my pm for reply.

Cheers

Flatz
hello flatz
clear has mud
nice opportunity to make a few bucks off woods tonight
the count to win tonight.cheers archie.


Hi Archie.

The bookies can't seperate the Wizard and the Count most going 5/6 a piece! I'm leaving the match well alone but with that and Bob Thornton vs Wolfie what a cracking night of arrers we have in store!!! I may have a bet on Adams just to make sure of a profit as I have Bob Thornton for outright winner & either could win!! I backed Bob Thornton on Betfair so may lay some of my stake off but last time I tried to do that was in a snooker tournament & I messed up & ended up laying all my stake and losing a big wedge so am a bit wary!
hello jimbob
im a total novice at understanding these exchanges but may i suggest you  follow my lead and ask posters who use them regular,ive found flatz,TheGoingStick and yaiyam to be very understanding and patience when ive asked for there help/advice concerning punting and all have been absolute gentleman when dealing with a complete numpty like me and im sure they,ll help you make a profit.cheers archie.
i,ll be watching the action tonight jimbob
im thinking its the counts year
lochsong

archie mackenzie wrote:

im thinking its the counts year


Hi Archie

I was thinking that last night too. Except for that blip when he could have won 4-0, his finishing was red hot (and he wasn't even snarling)

To be honest I've only happened to watch 2 of Hankey's matches and one of Adams, so can't really judge.

LS
Owl of Minerva

No offence meant by this question but how is it possible to bet intelligently on darts? Obviously some players are better than others but how do you decide which one will throw straighter than the other guy on that game? Whereas other sports rely on mental and physical ability, surely darts is 100% mental with minimal physical skill involved and without getting inside the players head how can you 'fancy' one player over another? It's not like you can say "His defence will offset his attack" etc or "I think his style will rough up the other guy" as after all it's essentially a physically individual game where styles 'meet' but don't 'clash' like most sports.

Cheers, Owl
Jimbob

Owl of Minerva wrote:
No offence meant by this question but how is it possible to bet intelligently on darts? Obviously some players are better than others but how do you decide which one will throw straighter than the other guy on that game? Whereas other sports rely on mental and physical ability, surely darts is 100% mental with minimal physical skill involved and without getting inside the players head how can you 'fancy' one player over another? It's not like you can say "His defence will offset his attack" etc or "I think his style will rough up the other guy" as after all it's essentially a physically individual game where styles 'meet' but don't 'clash' like most sports.

Cheers, Owl


Hi Owl. It is wrong to think that darts is 100% mental. The Professional Game(I'm not talking pub team level or even County Level although fitness does play a very minimal part at county level) is more physical than most people think. You walk an average of 16 miles just up & down the oche on your way to winning a World Championship And you have to perform under the lights in what can be very hot and stuffy conditions as was proven in spectacular fashion in The Undisputed King Of Darts match between Phil Taylor and Andy Fordham a few years back.

Having said all of this, it is fair to say darts is not as physical as most sports but like all sports, players can be in or out of form, like or dislike playing at certain venues/certain opponents etc.

The players style of play can affect their opponent as well. If you have a very slow, methodical player like Dennis Priestley up against a quick player like Wayne Mardle, it is quite likely mardle will get frustrated at how long he is away from the oche while Priestley is taking his time throwing for example.

I don't really see the difference between betting on darts & betting on anything else to be honest. Golf is not a very physical sport compared to most but enough people bet on that.
awaywardlad

Don't know much about this darts business but after reading some of your learned comments have backed The Count e.w. at 15/2(1/3 odds a place 1,2) as the bottom half of the draw looks much weaker than the top half.

In profit if he gets to the final(just) and hopefully a run for my money.

GAME ON!
lochsong

Jimbob wrote:

The players style of play can affect their opponent as well. If you have a very slow, methodical player like Dennis Priestley up against a quick  


Good point Jimbob

Worth noting that the Count can and does change the pace of his play, as he did to good effect in his second last match.

Didn't need to last night as he was so far in front.

LS
shamardal84

I dont want to put a downer on things but I cant see how the count can beat Whitlock, as I already stated ive had a very decent size bet on Whitlock and i really cant see anyone left in the competition who can beat him. Especially not Hankey.
Jimbob

shamardal84 wrote:
I dont want to put a downer on things but I cant see how the count can beat Whitlock, as I already stated ive had a very decent size bet on Whitlock and i really cant see anyone left in the competition who can beat him. Especially not Hankey.


Hankey can beat anybody in the world if he's in the mood! It just depends on what Ted Hankey turns up!
shamardal84

Jimbob wrote:
shamardal84 wrote:
I dont want to put a downer on things but I cant see how the count can beat Whitlock, as I already stated ive had a very decent size bet on Whitlock and i really cant see anyone left in the competition who can beat him. Especially not Hankey.


Hankey can beat anybody in the world if he's in the mood! It just depends on what Ted Hankey turns up!


Im not so sure, Whitlock is a very good player, I think a lot of people dont realise how good he is. He could quite easily turn into a Taylor where he wins the world championship year after year.
Jimbob

shamardal84 wrote:
Jimbob wrote:
shamardal84 wrote:
I dont want to put a downer on things but I cant see how the count can beat Whitlock, as I already stated ive had a very decent size bet on Whitlock and i really cant see anyone left in the competition who can beat him. Especially not Hankey.


Hankey can beat anybody in the world if he's in the mood! It just depends on what Ted Hankey turns up!


Im not so sure, Whitlock is a very good player, I think a lot of people dont realise how good he is. He could quite easily turn into a Taylor where he wins the world championship year after year.


Whitlock is a very good player you are correct but I truly believe if Hankey was at his very best, nobody in the world(including Taylor, Barney etc) can beat him. Also let's not get carried away, Whitlock has a long, long way to go before he can be mantioned in the same breath as Taylor.

I do agree he is a class player but do not under estimate The Count!
shamardal84

Jimbob wrote:
shamardal84 wrote:
Jimbob wrote:
shamardal84 wrote:
I dont want to put a downer on things but I cant see how the count can beat Whitlock, as I already stated ive had a very decent size bet on Whitlock and i really cant see anyone left in the competition who can beat him. Especially not Hankey.


Hankey can beat anybody in the world if he's in the mood! It just depends on what Ted Hankey turns up!


Im not so sure, Whitlock is a very good player, I think a lot of people dont realise how good he is. He could quite easily turn into a Taylor where he wins the world championship year after year.


Whitlock is a very good player you are correct but I truly believe if Hankey was at his very best, nobody in the world(including Taylor, Barney etc) can beat him. Also let's not get carried away, Whitlock has a long, long way to go before he can be mantioned in the same breath as Taylor.

I do agree he is a class player but do not under estimate The Count!


I didnt say he was as good but he easily could be. What I should really say is, I dont think they are both 5/6 shots
Jimbob

shamardal84 wrote:
Jimbob wrote:
shamardal84 wrote:
Jimbob wrote:
shamardal84 wrote:
I dont want to put a downer on things but I cant see how the count can beat Whitlock, as I already stated ive had a very decent size bet on Whitlock and i really cant see anyone left in the competition who can beat him. Especially not Hankey.


Hankey can beat anybody in the world if he's in the mood! It just depends on what Ted Hankey turns up!


Im not so sure, Whitlock is a very good player, I think a lot of people dont realise how good he is. He could quite easily turn into a Taylor where he wins the world championship year after year.


Whitlock is a very good player you are correct but I truly believe if Hankey was at his very best, nobody in the world(including Taylor, Barney etc) can beat him. Also let's not get carried away, Whitlock has a long, long way to go before he can be mantioned in the same breath as Taylor.

I do agree he is a class player but do not under estimate The Count!


I didnt say he was as good but he easily could be. What I should really say is, I dont think they are both 5/6 shots


Fair enough. I think 5/6 a piece is about right myself but whatever happens it will be a hell of a game!!
garrinchas-dog

Anyone having a bet I/R on this?
I have made a small amount backing the 180s in each leg from 2/1-5/2
each time
shamardal84

I am a bit dissapointed i didnt follow through with my conviction on this, I was tempted to go 5-1 or 5-0 but decided not to bother as ive already put everything I wanted to put on this at the start of the tournament. Still, my 19.5 looks good now, i cant see anyone to beat him on tonights form.
awaywardlad

awaywardlad wrote:
Don't know much about this darts business but after reading some of your learned comments have backed The Count e.w. at 15/2(1/3 odds a place 1,2) as the bottom half of the draw looks much weaker than the top half.

In profit if he gets to the final(just) and hopefully a run for my money.

GAME ON!


Didn't even get a run for my money as the Count was woeful and Whitlock was excellent.

Have taken 11/4 on Whitlock as a feeble last attempt to win on this event.

Well done Sharm - hope the Wizard wins for us.
Owl of Minerva

Jimbob wrote:
Owl of Minerva wrote:
No offence meant by this question but how is it possible to bet intelligently on darts? Obviously some players are better than others but how do you decide which one will throw straighter than the other guy on that game? Whereas other sports rely on mental and physical ability, surely darts is 100% mental with minimal physical skill involved and without getting inside the players head how can you 'fancy' one player over another? It's not like you can say "His defence will offset his attack" etc or "I think his style will rough up the other guy" as after all it's essentially a physically individual game where styles 'meet' but don't 'clash' like most sports.

Cheers, Owl


Hi Owl. It is wrong to think that darts is 100% mental. The Professional Game(I'm not talking pub team level or even County Level although fitness does play a very minimal part at county level) is more physical than most people think. You walk an average of 16 miles just up & down the oche on your way to winning a World Championship And you have to perform under the lights in what can be very hot and stuffy conditions as was proven in spectacular fashion in The Undisputed King Of Darts match between Phil Taylor and Andy Fordham a few years back.

Having said all of this, it is fair to say darts is not as physical as most sports but like all sports, players can be in or out of form, like or dislike playing at certain venues/certain opponents etc.

The players style of play can affect their opponent as well. If you have a very slow, methodical player like Dennis Priestley up against a quick player like Wayne Mardle, it is quite likely mardle will get frustrated at how long he is away from the oche while Priestley is taking his time throwing for example.

I don't really see the difference between betting on darts & betting on anything else to be honest. Golf is not a very physical sport compared to most but enough people bet on that.


Cheers Jimbob, interesting stuff. I've just never thought about darts as a betting medium. I think if i was to bet on it i'd want to do a lot of in play betting as you see players start to look like they're bottling it, missing more doubles etc. Funny that you say that about golf too, whenever i bet on that (rarely) i often do feel like i'm guessing so i don't bet on it much!

Owl
archie mackenzie

dracula well and truely humped
time to the put the cape away for another year
good luck to all with your remaining picks
cheers archie.
Dom

I've backed Anastasia Dobromyslova to beat Trina Gulliver @ 6/4
Dom

Dom wrote:
I've backed Anastasia Dobromyslova to beat Trina Gulliver @ 6/4


Whoop!!!
kickingkyle

What odds was Webster today? Being at work i missed it but i fancied him to win after he destroyed Fitton in very good style.
awaywardlad

Good final yesterday and although I'd not heard of Webster before this week he looks a really top player in the making.
Flatz

That was probably the best BDO Final for many a year, and I agree with awaywardlad about Webster's potential.

Cheers

Flatz
shamardal84

Even though it cost me quite a bit of money after backing Whitlock pre-tournament, I did actually enjoy the final, thought it was a real classic. Not much between them but when Witlock, who is the best double hitter in the game, starts missing his doubles, then he's got a problem

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