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Form Horse Trainer RTF %  Wgt Jockey      
5-63P3 All Star 26   N J Henderson —  8   128 132  118 — 1-4
-F176P Baily Breeze 60  M F Morris —  9    142  93 — 0-1
1-4961 Bible Lord 32   Andrew Turnell —  7   136 141  115 — 2-3
9321P1 Big Rob 78   B G Powell —  9   121 125  101 — 3-14
13P-P4 Billyvoddan 47   H D Daly —  9   151 160  153 — 3-9
-00196 Black Hills 19   J A Geake —  9   139 145  110 — 3-9
22-360 Bob Hall 72   Jonjo O´Neill —  7   141 146  146 — 1-6
-71222 Borora 47  R Lee —  9   129 134  125 — 0-3
-55734 Boychuk 82   P J Hobbs —  7   137 147  131 — 0-4
280227 Burntoakboy 19   Dr R D P Newland —  10   128 138  118 — 2-8
2-0256 Chief Yeoman 54  Miss Venetia Williams —  8   132 136  126 — 0-3
-P5212 Cossack Dancer 82   M Bradstock —  10   134 140  133 — 1-2
PF4-87 Crozan 89   N J Henderson —  8   144 151  125 — 1-6
11F5-1 Don´t Push It 138   Jonjo O´Neill —  8   149 159  111 — 1-2
15-131 Enlightenment 91  Evan Williams —  8    140  136 — 0-0
1-3F22 Fier Normand 110  Jonjo O´Neill —  9   135 138  123 — 0-0
P-3625 Foreman 18   C F Swan —  10    137  94 — 1-3
2/565- Fota Island 390   M F Morris —  12    -  - — 0-0
PF6-35 Full House 131   P R Webber —  9   140 148  124 — 3-8
-24121 Fundamentalist 42   N A Twiston-Davies —  10   148 153  148 — 4-7
-13453 Gwanako 34   P F Nicholls —  5   137 130  125 — 0-2
-44825 Hasty Prince 40   Jonjo O´Neill —  10   139 146  133 — 1-2
1-1416 Howle Hill 26  A King —  8   152 158  147 — 0-3
23-12P Il Duce 89   A King —  8   148 153  145 — 3-11
3-6383 In The High Grass 46  T J Taaffe —  7    137  119 — 0-0
942422 Its Crucial 28  N A Twiston-Davies —  8   117 121  101 — 0-2
0P-154 Kelrev 42  A King —  10   131 135  123 — 0-13
P32-P1 Kenzo III 26   N J Henderson —  10   140 149  141 — 1-2
1B2132 Knight Legend 26   Mrs John Harrington —  9    151  125 — 1-3
U-1164 L´Antartique 33   Ferdy Murphy —  8   154 158  126 — 3-4
-U5293 Le Volfoni 19  P F Nicholls —  7   150 156  154 — 0-9
P11F-0 Limited Edition 68   Carl Llewellyn —  10   131 107  66 — 2-3
12-1P3 Lord Jay Jay 28  Mrs A M Thorpe —  8   120 125  97 — 0-4
/114-3 Lucifer Bleu 107   D E Pipe —  9   143 -  - — 1-1
365443 Magic Sky 26   M F Harris —  8   134 145  143 — 1-6
3-2U41 Maljimar 47   Nick Williams —  8   140 151  133 — 1-4
F8-064 Maurice 19  D McCain Jnr —  8   127 127  106 — 2-7
141166 Merry Cowboy 25   E Sheehy —  7    128  102 — 2-3
-1114P Mighty Matters 70   C E Longsdon —  9   125 133  122 — 2-6
01547U Mister McGoldrick 33   Mrs S J Smith —  11   145 151  148 — 1-4
2313P1 Mister Quasimodo 34   C L Tizzard —  8   142 147  142 — 1-4
-U4283 Natal 40   P F Nicholls —  7   140 150  147 — 1-2
67-1P0 New Alco 89   Ferdy Murphy —  7   145 156  115 — 1-5
12221- Oedipe 443   N J Henderson —  6    -  - — 1-1
321- Outaouais 545  Miss Venetia Williams —  6   128 -  - — 0-0
0-1635 Pablo Du Charmil 33  D E Pipe —  7   146 151  142 — 0-0
/2-459 Palarshan 19   H D Daly —  10   139 148  142 — 0-6
353262 Patman Du Charmil 26   N A Twiston-Davies —  6   138 145  139 — 2-10
3P-143 Pauillac 49   D E Pipe —  5   129 127  118 — 0-1
U-143F Principe Azzurro 40  H D Daly —  7   130 139  132 — 0-2
4-7212 Regal Heights 33   D McCain Jnr —  7   150 158  132 — 1-2
08-102 Roman Ark 33  J M Jefferson —  10   144 149  137 — 0-7
14F-64 Sporazene 18   P F Nicholls —  9   158 143  119 — 0-1
30-265 Tanikos 26  N J Henderson —  9   122 130  120 — 0-3
112913 The Entomologist 78   C R Egerton —  7   126 132  122 — 2-3
343FU0 Tighe Caster 36   Mrs A M Thorpe —  9   117 126  100 — 1-8
3-U551 Tikram 18   G L Moore —  11   130 139  126 — 2-11
38-13P Wee Robbie 19  N J Gifford —  8   136 146  148 — 0-4
312-34 Whispered Secret 77   D E Pipe —  9   133 136  123 — 4-9
P-2P42 Without A Doubt 27  Carl Llewellyn —  9   132 136  96 — 0-5

Having had a quick look, Don't Push It would be of interest should he run in this and Crozan has finally received some leeway from the handicapper. I really think he is dangerous running off a mark of 144 and is a massive price at 20/1 NRNB (even though he doesn't fit most of the stats, but he fits mine for this race - he is trained by Nicky Henderson!). Oedipe is a lively outsider but i do not know what the plans are for him.

Of horses that fit the stats, the 2 i like are Maljimar and Natal. But the former has gone up a stone for his easy win at Cheltenham - is he in the handicappers grip?
Nicholls may use Sporazene to carry top weight to allow Natal/Gwanako in off a nice weight, but in all reality i expect a horse like Il Duce to carry top weight and subsequently make it a very compressed handicap, with the weight not being as significant as recent years for this race. Normally you would definitely want a horse that weighed under 11 stone, if your fancy is due to carry over 11 stone then i wouldn't let that you put you off your selection one little bit should a horse rating in the high 140's carry top weight. However, for the WH Handicap Trophy Chase, i still think you would want a horse under 11 stone, but this looks like being a very compressed handicap which would be a different story.

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[DunDoire]

What do you think of Bible Lord? This looks tailor made for him to me.

DD.

[daylami86]

Oedipe could still be thrown in, he destroyed them at kempton

dont push it - this is his target for sure

dun - i am a massive fan of bible lord , lost big money on him at bangor and kempton

but got it back at exeter!!!!!!!!!!!!

i got a feeling he may need softer conditions maybe and he was not that impressive at exeter, as the 2nd has been stuffed at chepstow since then!!!


Luficer Bleu could be good e/way value as this 2 miles 5 is the right trip, his weight is the ?
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Bible Lord = very well handicapped

[Owl of Minerva]

One who could sneak a place at a massive price is MAGIC SKY - he's slipped to an attractive mark (134) and has twice shaped encouragingly over C&D off higher marks this year. Also worth noting that he has consistently earned topspeed figures of 140+ in the last year. Slight stamina doubts and may want an ease in the ground ideally but will be a big price if he runs in this.

[Paddydeman]

Just been having a look at this race, I can't sleep! Left myself with a shortlist of 3 horses.   Crozan is a horse I like, I can't help it, I just like him, even though he runs like a dog a lot of the time.  He does however have plenty of ability and is running off an OK mark this time.   Gwanako will have to improve vastly on his first run over fences, but he was a decent hurdler and could be thrown in at the weights.   I also think Kelrev could run well at a big price, has run well at cheltenham before, in this race in fact.   Not on a terrible mark, I've seen worse 33/1 shots.
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[phardy3]

For me if Oedipe runs then he will win this!

The stats also say Patman du Charmil has a god chance, but for me not a betting prospect!
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[falbrav4ever]

I'm pretty sure that Crozan will go for the Johnny Henderson - much shorter on Betfair for that race - and Nicky does like to win his father's race.

Andy Stewart says that they believe Gwanako to be really leniently handicapped.

That's good enough for me and I'm on at 10s.

Falbrav
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[alansouthcoast]

Ive probably got this all wrong. I have laid Dont Push It for a place here. My reasoning is he has fallen and blundered here before. I`m not sure the track and the big field will suit him. I dont think Gwanako will get placed either and i really fancy Bible Lord.

[RightJudgeIam]

Oedipe clearly laid out, fits the stats and could be thrown in at the weights
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[RightJudgeIam]

[lochsong]

Could the forgotten horse of this race be Palarshan?

Came a decent 2nd to Idole First last year and Henry Daly doesn't bring them down for the fresh air...

I've taken the prices on BF.

[falbrav4ever]

Palarshan loves Cheltenham but I thought he was really disappointing in the RP chase - worse than his previous attempt a couple of years earlier.

Crozan has had the much publicised wind op which may also have contributed to Fitzy's decision.

He is the horse that I am most wary of but I'm sticking with Gwanako.

Falbrav
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[RightJudgeIam]

what I'm saying is that I don't think there's anything in it Owl - Crozan is just 'his ride' I should think. Silly really because he has very little chance off his mark.

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