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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 8:26 pm Post subject: SUPREME NOVICE HURDLE
i like noel meades MUIRHEAD in this 1 potentially a very good trading bet i liked the way he shaped and jumped on his hurdling debut and the way he ran past a good yardstick of ed ogradys like he was standing still and he was very very green
ed ogradys horse has since won by a wide margin which franks the form
muirhead will be tested in a winners race and thats where we shall see if he has the class to figure _________________ Tazbar = machine up north (wont be beaten over hurdles in scotland)
Aux Le Bahn = serious serious engine
Bible Lord = very well handicapped
Last edited by daylami86 on Wed Nov 21, 2007 11:33 pm; edited 1 time in total
Shame the horse wrapped his legs on the last hurdle today. Anyone think he'd reverse the form with Muirhead on better ground !!!
nope i dont think he will ever over turn the form with Muirhead....
Muirhead was making his 3rd apperance on a race course compared with CAS who was making his 7th...
my point is CAS would be more street wise than Muirhead
another point is both of the horses did not enjoy the heavy ground at all and both will be much better on quicker ground
in my own opinion CAS will NEVER beat Muirhead baring a fall or injury _________________ Tazbar = machine up north (wont be beaten over hurdles in scotland)
Aux Le Bahn = serious serious engine
Bible Lord = very well handicapped
I've backed Megan's Joy for the Supreme and I was ecstatic at her run today. She would have absolutley loathed the ground today. Yet she travelled well and would have been alot closer, but she made a hash of the last and was still only beat about 6 lengths. On good ground, I think Colm Murphy has a new Brave Inca/Feathered Lady. _________________ TWIST MAGIC. Obstacles can't stop you. Problems can't stop you. Most of all other horses can't stop you. Only you can stop you.
Do you not think CAS would have beaten Muirhead today had he not nearly fallen at the last?
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Shame the horse wrapped his legs on the last hurdle today. Anyone think he'd reverse the form with Muirhead on better ground !!!
nope i dont think he will ever over turn the form with Muirhead....
Muirhead was making his 3rd apperance on a race course compared with CAS who was making his 7th...
my point is CAS would be more street wise than Muirhead
another point is both of the horses did not enjoy the heavy ground at all and both will be much better on quicker ground
in my own opinion CAS will NEVER beat Muirhead baring a fall or injury
I have to admit, the jury's out. Cork All Star is in my TTF, and may have won today if his hurdling was neater, but I find it interesting that Noel Meade has stepped Muirhead up from a single bumper so quickly.
Its worthwhile watching this horses first two runs as he's clearly a quick animal
I was very impressed with Helen's Vision yesterday and whilst I would not consider her AP she must be considered as an E/W horse nearer the time.
I know she will not have it her own way and mares do not have good form in the race, but she galloped for fun, has beaten good horses and I will be watching her progress with interest! _________________ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzDGTMayREI
I think mares do have a decent record in the supreme, going on runners\winners ratio.
That said I can only think of Like-A-Butterfly off the top of my head _________________ ROLL OF HONOUR
WINNER - 2006 WORLD CUP FANTASY FOOTBALL COMP
WINNER - 2007 CHELTENHAM COMP
JOINT WINNER - 2007 CHELTENHAM ANTE-POST COMP
WINNER - NEW YEARS EVE 2007 DAILY COMP
WINNER - 2008 CHELTENHAM COMP
WINNER - 2008 AINTREE COMP
WINNER - EURO 2008 TAIKAI GROUP MATCH BETTING COMP
WINNER - 2008\2009 CHAMPIONS LEAGUE COMP
Shame the horse wrapped his legs on the last hurdle today. Anyone think he'd reverse the form with Muirhead on better ground !!!
nope i dont think he will ever over turn the form with Muirhead....
Muirhead was making his 3rd apperance on a race course compared with CAS who was making his 7th...
my point is CAS would be more street wise than Muirhead
another point is both of the horses did not enjoy the heavy ground at all and both will be much better on quicker ground
in my own opinion CAS will NEVER beat Muirhead baring a fall or injury
I guess we'll just have to wait and see but i would bet any money he will...........especially on better ground. He would of won easy today if not for basically stopping still after the last. Muirhead was well cooked before the last.
in my own opinion muirhead was finishing very strongly and i would think it is naive to think CAS had muirhead cooked as Muirhead does respone to pressure!!!
both horses will improve for better ground and a fast pace
muirhead has time and will only get better as CAS has more experience maybe not over hurdles but in general runs
i think muirhead has no hype around him which favours us punters
muirhead has won a grade 1 in about 5 months of being prepared for his racing career this is very promising
and to answer your earlier question i dont think CAS will ever beat muirhead as muirhead will only improve
another thing is look at the riding positions CAS was given the better ride today!!!! muirhead has to gain a few lengths on him!!!! _________________ Tazbar = machine up north (wont be beaten over hurdles in scotland)
Aux Le Bahn = serious serious engine
Bible Lord = very well handicapped
As you say its all about opinions mate - life would be boring if we all thought the same. I wasnt having a go or anything at all, i just am so convinved that CAS would of won. I understand where you are coming from about Muirheads quick progress though. However backing him for the supreme novice is another kettle of fish. Remember Sweet Wake.........i generally dont touch any of Meades for cheltenham with a barge pole. In Ireland he is a different proposition though!
Cant wait until they both run again - will be interesting.........can we have a David Vs. YY billing??!!!
As you say its all about opinions mate - life would be boring if we all thought the same. I wasnt having a go or anything at all, i just am so convinved that CAS would of won. I understand where you are coming from about Muirheads quick progress though. However backing him for the supreme novice is another kettle of fish. Remember Sweet Wake.........i generally dont touch any of Meades for cheltenham with a barge pole. In Ireland he is a different proposition though!
Cant wait until they both run again - will be interesting.........can we have a David Vs. YY billing??!!!
As you say its all about opinions mate - life would be boring if we all thought the same. I wasnt having a go or anything at all, i just am so convinved that CAS would of won. I understand where you are coming from about Muirheads quick progress though. However backing him for the supreme novice is another kettle of fish. Remember Sweet Wake.........i generally dont touch any of Meades for cheltenham with a barge pole. In Ireland he is a different proposition though!
Cant wait until they both run again - will be interesting.........can we have a David Vs. YY billing??!!!
As you say its all about opinions mate - life would be boring if we all thought the same. I wasnt having a go or anything at all, i just am so convinved that CAS would of won. I understand where you are coming from about Muirheads quick progress though. However backing him for the supreme novice is another kettle of fish. Remember Sweet Wake.........i generally dont touch any of Meades for cheltenham with a barge pole. In Ireland he is a different proposition though!
Cant wait until they both run again - will be interesting.........can we have a David Vs. YY billing??!!!
DD
You can have my view DD.
As said already today the winners/runners of this race do not have a great record come Cheltenham, as for the race today i think Muirhead would of won wether CAS slipped or not and also with the view that because of Muirheads limited experiance would say it would be hard for CAS to reverse it. I also think CAS looked more of a chaser and that although he may prefer better ground Muirhead also certainly would but like already said i doubt either will win the Supreme
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